I've been fooling around with Campaign Cartographer 3. What I'm finding is that you just can't fool around! You have to get in there and learn it. There's a great mapping tool in there but there is a steep learning curve. I'm willing to give it a good shot. I've become quite taken with the idea of an Imagi-Nation and I think it's genesis will take up most of my painting and hobby time. That's why I'm going to tough it out. Believe me creating a kingdom is not easy!